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Enoch
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nah bro I don't think is a sermon. I actually agreed to the first part of the comment. Slavery is real and present in the modern world.

But my argument for fantasy is that the trope of "I treat my slaves better so they are loyal to me" is a reflection of the insecurities of the author that became normalized for marketing reasons. It is simply that I don't believe nor can be convinced that to simply being a slave (different if the contract/pact is supernatural in nature and need for one of them to live or something like making a former enemy being kept in check, because then you can explore THAT narrative instead) and not being released by the MC is justified on "being treated better" when we all know that if they want to be with you and you with them they would just be with you. Stories of having "a life debt to someone so I dedicate my life to them" are pretty common after all.

It is simply that the author is insecure in the character being inherently the kind of person that would be deserving of that. And they probably are, given that they do not reject the system and institution of slavery that just as how it has always existed, has ALWAYS had vocal detractors. So they keep the slavery thing going on, because having an external guarantee of people being unable to leave your ass is the power fantasy at play and because it is also a popular thing to do that sells manga based on that power fantasy.

Dion's relationship with Eldora is like that and it doesn't depend on slavery to work, it is also hotter in my opinion, because the circumstances of their bond and the kind of people they are makes them unable to be apart. It is super good and like the main selling point in the manga, it is in the fkn title after all.

I just personally think it is a disgusting power fantasy to express specifically through slavery in this manner, specially here. Because it actually retracts from the bond trying to be presented and I just hate fucking slavery. But I will wait to see if it develops into something different.

The rest of it is you just being dorky and this is the internet, everyone can be dorky here.
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Enoch Nexus1961 - 1778305651
I mean if this was historical fantasy or a period piece, sure. I wouldn't really have a problem, slavery existed, it exists in some forms today around the world, horrible as it was/is it is what it is man.
But the thing about a social system in a fictional setting is that when you represent a system, how the characters interact with it tells the audience how they feel about the system.

Do they uphold it? do they reject it? do they prefer it for budgeting reasons with a single passing remark about it not being ideal and not much else?
So this is the kind of people Dion and Yuki are. Eldora is a dragon, so it's all the same to me.
But a social system implies things for someone's life it says thing about how the characters live and think about life.

But what is that "right... let's get out of here before we start getting weird ideas" bullshit? Is the inaction of the whole thing man, it's unheroic but more than anything is spineless and it was done because the "slave waifu" is just a common trope, it doesn't really give anything to the story.

Maybe it will be addressed later, no way to know. But this is some bullshit for the sake of bullshit. It is not commentary, it doesn't expose nor develop characters excepts for Dion empathy for ONE SINGLE SLAVE and the slave market and slavery system as a whole doesn't seem to have any relevance to story more than to be a free waifu generator so it sucks.
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Enoch Noroi - 1778264430
Exactly dude, this whole storyline could have happened in an orphanage. Hell it could have happened in an alley with a bunch of street urchins.
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Enoch Rathial - 1778260473
it depends on the fantasy setting. I've seen stories where elves like 300 years at most.
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Enoch - 1778258111
I hate this slave bullshit japanese fantasy does. Just release her and hire her for money according to her capabilities.

But this is not the worst offender I guess.

I hate fucking slavery man
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Enoch Noname - 1778080534
you would be surprised what investigative authorities around the world let criminals get away with to get a deal to catch a bigger criminal or to find the right combination of evidence.
It is always a trade on principles to neutralize a bigger threat.
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Enoch Depression9000 - 1778080229
There are no instances of magic like divination (to look for clues or look to the past to the time of a crime) or mind control (like force someone to say the truth) for purposes of investigation being used in this world. At most we have seen possession and like energy blast or elemental magic. None of those can do much to solve a mystery.
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he has 4 wings, but only the 2 black ones on his back are capable of flight. He is a flightless bird otherwise.
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Enoch - 1775505118
OMG THEY KILLED KINTA
KINTA IS DEAD FOREVER!
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Enoch Fatfuck - 1768994515
*Can't recognize what is obviously true but calls OTHER people retarded.
Lol
It seems you are as dumb as you are gay lmao
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Enoch Fatfuck - 1768955415
What does it feel to be so homosexual that women produce you such rejection?
is it hard to be forced to like something?
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Enoch Kira Info - 1765516346
life is a constant conciliation of contradictions.
Some people become wacky because of that.
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Enoch green fn - 1765145148
contradiction is the force that move you forward towards actual strength. It is the pushing of comfort and the pulling of your goal that make you move forward. Because the pull can sink you and the push can destroy you, balance is needed.

It is a bit harder to assimilate because it is a very oriental form of existential philosophy.

In the west, we see toil as virtue, rest as a reward, comfort as decadent and suffering as a test. So this reasoning doesn't come to us as easily.
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Enoch Zachary Musashi - 1763944348
start looking for seinen and slice of life genres
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Enoch - 1762531858
https://i.postimg.cc/1t49yWrx/i.png
no way
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Enoch - 1762396170
I wonder what is our dashing protagonist up to
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Enoch - 1758093658
His Gehenna seems populated by the souls of those that gave up, and they crowned him king.
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