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Ballsdeep69
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Ballsdeep69 dienstagHD - 1719642792
I will be honest dog I was really hoping the answer was "die"
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Ballsdeep69 Neurofez - 1719641860
No I read it, granted I read it week to week so there's some parts I don't completely remember, I simply stated that the thing he was going for was a thing I specifically found boring and unfortunately common for female characters in shounen in regards to why I specifically did not like ochako, to say I didn't read it simply because I disliked it feels somewhat...reductive. like I can see what he was trying to go for but he did not put in enough time and effort to make that successful (at least for me) so I'm simply judging what he actually did.
But once again if you were to consume the entire Arc or even the entire series in a more concise time period some of these problems will probably be minimized or at least less noticeable because you have less time to think about these things and more time to let the story Shepherd you along like I imagine the writer intended.
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Like the reporter guy is wicked shitty, but they aren't wrong and that he's the only one who actually had hope that they could get out of this s*** and try to find a way to do so, it's just that he went for the method with the highest absolute success margin completely disregarding others lives in the process, and then after that proceeded to go for the route that kept him alive the longest, disregarding others lives in the process.
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Ballsdeep69 Solcastic - 1719623197
Like yeah it's a long flashback but it's showing us a part of the world we haven't yet experienced as well as vital backstory for the main character, while introducing several characters that, while not strong enough to hold an entire story, are definitely strong enough to hold a single story line
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Ballsdeep69 Meringue - 1719616266
It's less no death =no tension and more bad pacing equals = no buildup = no tension, the no deaths thing was more so that if you're not going to Pace it in a way that tension stays consistent you can at least kill people to generate some stakes and tension, because one piece has really long arcs with relatively few or at least ambiguous deaths (more pre time skip then post) but one piece is paced well enough at least in the manga that it always feels like there's stakes regardless.
like I said shonen often substitutes tension for death or stakes (think any sports manga) it wasn't that the week to week nature made the pacing bad it's more so that the week to week nature made the bad pacing worse, like they never let a fight build and flow naturally, it would always just cut away arbitrarily to cut to whatever else is happening elsewhere, which some series do but the crucial part is very rarely was whatever else happening elsewhere directly tied to what was about to happen in the previous area. Like the entire Arc was a bunch of disjointed fights up until the end when some of them sort of connected slightly. So instead of having a building of hype like you might get for a long One Piece Arc (or even jiu jitsu kaisen arcs which are all really long) occasionally intercut with emotionally or energetically low moments like comedy or a flashback or an explanation or drama, it's more like hype would build and then be slapped out of you so that ochako could yap at toga for a while about some lame flat ass romance shit for a while and then we cut to spinner talking about how racism suddenly just exists now ( and it's existed this whole time but we've just never brought it up in the past 300 chapters because reasons), and then it cuts to the most overpowered character in the series somehow immediately losing a fight she by no means should have lost because the villains GOT to be busted like Madara, and then it'll cut back to deku and then it'll cut away again and then it'll cut to endeavor and then it'll cut away again and then it'll cut to an Admittedly great fight with Mecha all might vs all for one, only for the fight to end in a wet fart of a conclusion instead of having a meaningful impactful conclusion between two generational foes. The effect after a while is annoyance and disorientation, you don't care anymore because they never let you settle in a place long enough to care anytime you sort of care the dumbest possible outcome happens, and then it just keeps going and going. It's sort of feels like a Zach Snyder movie when he has complete control: there's a lot of style, the style is... interesting, but the style mostly works as individual moments and they don't necessarily join together to make a cohesive whole, and the writing is just sort of lackluster and generic in parts while being outright derivative in others.
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Man his editor f***** up because that would have been a significantly more interesting series instead of the standard shounen "I'm stronger than you" fist fighting we slowly got more of as the series progressed
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Ballsdeep69 Meringue - 1719580809
The three problems people have with the finale chiefly are pacing, which was really bad, and the second being a lot of the conclusions to these characters being let's say anticlimactic due to them constantly no matter what trying to talk it out with everyone even when sometimes you kind of shouldn't, you should maybe subdue the guy first and then try talking it out, like the story pushes this "everyone no matter what is worth your sympathy and understanding" thing which is fine but given some of these situations comes off as naive, like when the dude starts releasing all the prisoners and systematically destroying your country maybe talking it out is off the table. With the third being a perceived lack of stakes perhaps due to there being consequences yes, but for the most part the consequences were scars or temporary injuries, characters didn't die even when going by the flow of the story - they really should have (looking at you almight) and as a result we have essentially a giant war that led to most of the country being in ruins where no characters of consequence died (except villains) and a few side characters got injured. This is fine in isolation but we exist in a world with stuff like jujitsu Kaisen and chainsaw man so the lack of stakes is more distinctly noticeable because you've seen series that have them. And the pacing only made these things more glaring due to the week to week nature of the series and the fact that it kept bouncing back and forth constantly, we couldn't even get tension going, which in shounen is often a substitute for serious consequences like death, nor could excitement be maintained due to the extended nature of the ending arc, and without hype to bolster it most shounen series endings suffer a bit. Like if someone were to read this whole Arc in one go it might be better, and it'll probably be better animated but as a week-to-week experience it was frustrating to say the least.
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Ballsdeep69 Aj_reader - 1719578435
Like I like both these series, but frantic more so than the first keeps revisiting things just to make them more f***** up.
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I honestly say it's the reverse, people didn't really have complaints until it started going towards the end and the pacing problems became more blatant and a lot of the character problems got exacerbated by trying to hang whole mini arcs on the characters when a lot of them just quite frankly couldn't support it, the same could be said for the story, The setting and characters are absolutely a strong point of the series (even if there's maybe way too many characters that are just kind of there without getting too much development) but the story kind of let them down with it just kind of devolving into the fourth great ninja war but somehow more chaotic and less focused, as well as a lot of the fights ending off with trying to talk it out and then the villain just sort of dying or KO-ing themself.
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Ballsdeep69 Neurofez - 1719575446
I would say a character whose whole purpose is to be support and whose whole character Arc is that their support is really only interesting to me if this is something they have to accept overtime as opposed to it being a trait they just have off-rip by design specifically when it's a non-comedy, it just makes a character feel like they lack agency to me when they're only role in the plot (and main personality traits are towards the goal of) being nice to and helping out the main characters and most actions they take is towards that goal for no real clear reasons other than "love™️" with no solid foundation or interactions to justify it other than "well he looks cool so I guess I'll devote my every action to his benefit" (which is honestly a complaint about sakura at the start of Naruto as well except that's directed towards Sasuke(and also Hinata but she doesn't really show up enough for this to become annoying)), especially when that is so often relegated to the female lead of a series. And while you're right about the love of midoriya being the point they have in common I think I never considered it much because the romance threads in this series are some of the weakest parts of it straight up like I can only describe them as half formed, which is fine cuz that wasn't the goal, but then they don't really need to be here then (much like Naruto) and whenever I think of parallels between two characters I think of individual traits they share that may overlap or clash as characters. Like in Naruto pain and Naruto were both taught by jiraiya, but they're parallels weren't based on the fact that they were both taught by jiraiya alone or even primarily, it was based on worldview and core values overlapping and clashing, with the shared teacher and their different views on him being icing on the cake.
And if I'm being honest the Sakura hate was less so her dislike of Naruto(but it was partially that don't get me wrong) and more so that kishimoto had her around a lot but did not give her a lot to do (other than be a good little White mage in the corner) which made her seem just not very useful, meanwhile hinata wasn't actually around all that often but whenever she was she had something to do, and it was usually semi interesting at least.(Though I will readily admit some parts of my distaste for these characters is that certain elements of their arcs might have only been hinted at early on and this is a week to week series, so some of those parts were several years ago.) TLDR - your female leads only goal in existence and purpose in the story being pure support with very little agency is mad boring to me especially when their personality is also kind of basic "nice, pretty and kind girl", thus I found ochako boring, as neither of those things give me much entertainment value.
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https://i.postimg.cc/rpc9KHw5/i.jpg
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You Fool! That gay shit™️ reflects off of all surfaces, in the end... it'll strike you all the same.
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But wait they said that in the earlier chapter, he's a boy because of a curse he had to dress like a girl, but even without the curse he just likes dressing cute
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Ballsdeep69 - 1719544107
Well this flag is crimson
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Yeah but there's a balance of these things.
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Probably but the way you typed those ellipses in there I was just picturing somebody on a My chemical romance type beat whispering those lines at the end of a verse before the guitar kicks in again.
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