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being with iruma, this man might just be destroyed psychologically long before jazz ever gets to beat him.
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yup. I've had games like that. i also remember one where you could add a life steal effect on top so you could just poison it and run around while it healed you. broken strats man.
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What kinda inhuman strength MC got at this point to block an overhead strike like that?https://i.postimg.cc/NMYYJ7Bt/i.jpg
Damn, thats gotta be hard on your wrist.
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At least it still follows euclidian geometry.
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I mean, when 99% of the world treats them as disposable tools instead of living creatures, let alone companions, of course they’re gonna stick with the guy who can understand them and treats them respectfully.
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this entire time you've made very good points, However i have to disagree that the concept of "actions have consequences" being a modern convenience.

while i can agree with pretty much everything else, every action and choice made has some sort of consequence. for your money and power clam, i would agree in terms of legislative of legal consequence, but those who abuse money and power are still mostly hated in the public eye. so while no, they wont be going to prison, or facing a criminal charge, their view in the eyes of their followers will still drop significantly. which I would still consider a consequence.

while i am disappointed that the kings consequences weren't more severe(not necessarily violent, just severe) its not like there were none, he was still attacked and defeated. MC would never have gotten to this point(for better or worse) without the king being who he is. those actions still had consequences.

Aside from that, everything else you said is honestly fair. And, to be clear, I'm not asking for violence, i just want more solid repercussions.

I've read "It's Sudden, but I came to Another World! But i hope to live Safely" and quite like it. i also know that this and that are two completely different environments. I'm not asking for this to be more like that, just, i don't know, more detailed. I'm a just sucker for good worldbuilding I guess.

But I digress, this has been a fun discussion for me and I do genuinely enjoy your input. i hope you felt the same.
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for the first part, even a king is human, and their actions are dictated by their peoples needs, otherwise they're just a tyrant. to add to that an unjust ruler being made to step down from the throne is still a punishment. You don't have to kill the guy, but there needs to be repercussions.

for the second section, our MC is still from a modern world and even while being in a feudalistic one. This is literally the basis for the Isekai genre save for scarce few exceptions. So he should still have modern values to an extent, including concepts of crime and punishment.

And third, It doesn't need to be violent, but there needs is be adequate consequences. For both sides. as suggested in the first segment, force the king to abdicate, or lock him in his chambers for a while. Leave governance to the ministers.

If its about an authors portrayal, its fine to show an idealistic MC, but you also need to show that actions have consequences.
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Yes, but there's being merciful, and then there's being ignorant.

We don't question it for the western heroes because when the villain is defeated he still gets a comeuppance, typically getting arrested and/or imprisoned. So even if it means they'll just eventually break out, there's at least a punishment.

Meanwhile, an Isekai MC will just let their enemies off the hook with a "don't do this again" and walk away. There's no proper consequence and thus the villain is free to immediately go do something else which typically endangers the MC and their loved ones all over again. Even if you're not killing/maiming your enemies, at least give them a proper punishment instead of just "letting them off with a warning" over and over.

in short, while western heroes are merciful, Isekai MCs are just passive.
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Girls gonna put on a show then get her ass beat. Prolly a mid boss from the game who's patterns he memorized long ago.
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her thumb is coming out of her palm for one.
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A potential axe, but not 100%. Feels like the authors trying to make a point where it can be tied off if necessary, but could also continue.
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Of course we do, he's us (mentally at least (I'm nowhere near that physically fit (closer to FMC honestly))).
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For a character of such “depth” 003s character is rather flat.
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Rip and tear. Until it is done.
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We all knew she’s be safe in the end, but that was still stressful for a bit there.
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