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Seraph
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Seraph User-5452053329 - 1702264800

Moreover, the character building sucks so far and I don't think it's going to get better. So far we have:
- an impotent, naive MC who has no survival instincts despite living in the streets for years. He gets attacked and almost murdered in the dungeon and watches the elf lady kill the guy in front of him, and the next day he's excited to meet another adventurer showing the same suspicious behavior. It's acknowledged in the story, but like, is the kid retarded? I don't think he is ever going to grow in a meaningful way either, because he has little agency and
- the pedo elf carries the MC with everything. This chick literally shows up and asks to marry the 13 y/o MC because he has no mana (low T) and frankly she is very creepy. I see the shota tag but even aside from the age gap, there's a huge gap in maturity and she basically acts like his mom while asking to be his lover.
I'm having trouble putting all of the issues into words because part of it is just the way that everything comes together, but I have a strong sense that this manga sucks. Now that I've seen the shota tag I guess it makes more sense, since it's probably appealing to some sort of fetish and people might overlook the issues if they're just reading for that. Coming from an isekai manga that I actually enjoyed (https://mangakatana.com/manga/surviving-the-game-as-a-barbarian.26848) and having read others that executed the same basic premise much better, I think the comments here are way overrating this manga.
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Seraph Aeol - 1702264785
I read through chapter 9 after reading the summary (I forgot to check the tags, the shota tag makes things more clear). The worldbuilding is basically your generic fantasy/isekai setting, with MC living in a medieval town with a magical dungeon where adventurers grind for loot and magic crystals. There was an interesting thing about the dungeon-iron sword being able to absorb the magic of the dungeon and be repaired/improved, but that's about the only unique part. The rest of the worldbuilding is bad. Not bad because it's generic/tropey/typical of manga in this genre, I would be fine with that, but the execution just wasn't there. It feels like the author didn't spend any time thinking about the world, and threw together a bunch of irrelevant details that don't come to anything greater. For example:
-Why are there like 7 levels in the adventurers guild? Are each of these levels really going to be important throughout the story? Will MC make an epic progression to the top? I don't think so
-Why can't elves reproduce among themselves? The elf just says that elves have too much magic. So???? Am I supposed to suspend disbelief for a flimsy reason like that? At least try to explain why high magic would prevent two people from having a child. This idea was introduced only so that the author could play out his fetish.
-Likewise, if MC has no mana, why would that mean that the dungeon's magic will improve his physical abilities instead?
-Why are people able to run around noobkilling on the first floor of the dungeon if the mobs are literally trash and there's no barrier to entry? How is it even worth the effort compared to just whacking a couple of goblins yourself? And why is everybody so suspicious to the extent of hiding trivial information about the first floor of the dungeon? Author did not establish reasons for this, besides needing people to be mean to MC so that elf lady can save him.

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Seraph - 1702239405
This manga seems really bad and I don't understand all of the comments talking about how good it is
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Modern society is oversexualized so yeah, people wear inappropriate clothing outside. It is what it is, doesn't make it normal
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Normal for this author but not normal in the grand scheme of things, it's still lewd. If you only read hentai that doesn't make hentai "normal" or less lewd.
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If you mean this particular chapter the same still applies, this author draws female characters (at least the main ones) for max sex appeal all the time. It's a part of the art style
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Seraph - 1702007552
Yeah the artist is really weird for drawing her tits like that... That's not how shirts work
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Dude a couple of chapters ago the dude was wiping aphrodisiac slime off of the girl's body, what is that if not lewd?https://i.postimg.cc/WpZgtXB5/i.png
Definitely not lewd 😂
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Porn addict? I guess you're desensitized to it but this isn't normal lol, why would somebody put in the effort to draw all the ass and thigh shots if it wasn't for fanservice?. No need to make excuses for it when we all know the author makes pornwha
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Seraph - 1701870188
Retarded premise as usual
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Seraph User Not Found - 1700270919
Yeah big twist with the notebook
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Seraph - 1699950109
Worst medical manga I've read so far (besides the isekais, but those don't really count). There's a lot of weird fanservice and overall it has a pretty childish tone despite being marketed as seinen. The characters are mostly annoying and the plot is pretty bad starting from the premise. I dropped soon after Messages from the Dead because the author keeps pulling bullshit plot contrivances to keep things dramatic
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Seraph TruePurpleMK - 1699847846
So now you get mad and start projecting your anger onto me and making ad hom attacks. Sorry I'm not an enlightened liberal like yourself, I hope you can resolve your contradictory position though
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Seraph TruePurpleMK - 1699808482
How does the word "they" having multiple uses make it less useful? We have a plural and singular sense of "you" and that doesn't make the word less useful. You can pick out the sense of the word based on context, like if a person were sneaking around your backyard you would generally indicate that "someONE" is in your backyard before you refer to the person as "they". I've never encountered any confusion of singular and plural in the normal use of the word, only when a person asks you to refer to them as "they/them" when you already know them personally. That is, the same type of person who would invent "xet/xem" pronouns which only serve to obscure one's nature.
Anyway I think it's pretty clear that masculinity and femininity are grounded in the reality of a person being born as a man or a woman, congenital deformities and genetic disorders notwithstanding. What a particular society views as masculine or feminine has no bearing on what these terms actually are, either. Even though some people distort the truth and try to force it to be something other than what it is,  they can't change the underlying reality of it. So you can't point to things like "toxic masculinity" as a product of particular cultures in order to justify the idea that all senses of masculinity are socially constructed. You can't bring the natural sex that people are born with and bring it down to the level of your homosexual-aligned gender identities. 
 
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Seraph TruePurpleMK - 1699771692
Xe is not useful. It may be useful to refer to a person as "they" or "them" when you don't know their gender, or refer to an abstract, or describe a person ambiguously. But the idea behind describing a particular person as "them" is ridiculous, and "xe" is just delusional. It's a totally alien concept that undermines people's sense of identity because subverts the notion of masculinity and femininity. There is no third option in the middle of those two, and there is no option outside of that paradigm, because ultimately masculinity and femininity are concepts grounded in reality while alternative pronouns are not. There is no person with a nature of being "xe" or "them" , the only way it can be defined is if a person claims to feel like a "xe", which is entirely arbitrar
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Seraph - 1699331834
I don't have the heart to read this after chapter 2 :(
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Seraph User-2704858163 - 1699013526
Cope harder dude porn and excessive masturbation are a major cause of erectile dysfunction 
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Seraph Lazith - 1698615748
Lol the whole manga is a little unhinged, it weirdly reminds me of that one about punching women
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Seraph - 1697762371
This misrepresents the Orthodox church, sad 
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