Right. It bad if they can gauge your actual strength. No "pretend to be weak and make them lower there guard" tactics.

Okay. I guess we'll just have to wait and see whether FMC's statement was based on reasonable connections and genuinely trying to help mc or she said that out of straight up jealousy. And see if she truly is a hypocrite, asshole, and is coping. I do apologize for saying you said she was manipulative. And I do agree that her word did have weight it's just what type we disagree on.

Theory: he probably fell into the lake, came back as two better or stronger versions, pass the lake's test and merged with the better one. And since he's related to the fairy king, that helps a lot.

Yes

Okay, not to side with her, but she doesn't know he's human. Almost no one does.

Yeah, you're misinterpreting what she said.

FMC, in this series, didn't abandon him. She did try to set him up with other girls but he refused. Then he started hanging out with junior while FMC was still hanging out with him. Then MC had so much sex with junior that he needed to retake their finals cause he failed and needed to do, what was essentially, summer school. Realizing he was too preoccupied with the sex, he focused on studying. Honestly, it's not FMC sole responsibility to keep up with mc. Just like how FMC could have called mc, mc could have done the same thing.
And no way in any scenario does MC has rougher than Rudeus. Even how you explained it, Rudeus had it worse cause, and you left out important details, his whole ass family and him were teleport via some supernatural phenomenon and he doesn't know whether they were alive or not. And Eris leaving just added to that stress. MC here, all she told him was that all the stuff he learned wasn't that good and the people around you (big sis and junior) wouldn't tell you otherwise and your new personality is a bad side effect. All mc has to do is literally do some introspection and ask FMC what she meant. Hell, just ask junior and big sis and see what they say. Or better still, ask them what they like when having sex. MC can do all of that. Rudeus potentially lost another person he cared for.

So no, mc doesn't have it worse than Rudeus.

Sure, but to an extent. She likes sex sure, but she's still finding people she can be compatible with and she doesn't sleep with pretty boy afterwards or as often. And if I'm wrong, she could just be sleeping with him just cause and not cause he good at it.

Yes, that is fine and all but if you neglect what you're partner is actually feeling into then you defeat that purpose. Just cause it's something doesn't mean it's a net gain. You're trying to put a numerical value on something that's already complicated. Mc might not be as bad, but he's still bad enough for FMC to say something. And I already stated that to two people he's slept with wouldn't tell him otherwise. They could be fake or they could be real. Maybe, junior is that in love with MC to reach there or mc is that good. Until we can get proper confirmation I stand by what I said. And even if junior felt good, what applies to junior doesn't necessarily apply to FMC. No technique is a "one size fits all."

And your right it would have been shown if it was unenjoyable, but we have to wait until the end of the series to make that judgement on whether you were right or I was. And that's the crux of what I'm actually trying to say. We are jumping to major conclusions on what type of person FMC is without proper evidence or flat out proof. You are speculating she's bad and manipulative when there's no proof and I'm saying she's not cause lack of proof. So until author brings up any, we shouldn't be jumping to conclusions without the author flat out shown it. Let's see her actually be manipulative and her admitting it. Let's see her flat out say, without any hint otherwise, that she wanted to bring mc down or made up all that stuff. And when all that is shown and was properly written and not an ass pull, let the series end without saying she's not actually manipulative. And right now, based on everything, she doesn't seem manipulative and the stuff she said has validity from big sis being in it just cause, from pretty boy actually being bad or not as great at sex, to, and this one is more believable, junior literally being fresh from losing her virginity and having a crush on mc.

Wait, the teacher isn't her mom?

Honestly not. It looked like he was meeting the scholar in secret, so no guards came to keep it secret.

She did not leave him. It literally just jumped to the next scene. Seriously. And he's literally avoiding her, instead of talking to her.

The dude is a royalist and the lady is her mom

Worse, that's her mom

Of course her comments were a heavy blow. No matter what, he did build up confidence, it's just a matter of where he placed that confidence. Yeah, he went through supposed leaps and bounds, but remember he was the one who refused to sleep with other girls until junior came along and then big sis. Let's not forget the only reason he wasn't with FMC was because he was having too much sex to study and failed, so he needed to study over the break. And say what you want about big sis, she's still the top rank in grades in the whole school. Also, that was not a jab at mc when she said pretty boy can get away with doing lame moves cause of looks. Mc, himself, isn't even dwelling on that, so way are readers dwelling on that? Haven't you heard people say that they would like to have sex with someone cause of looks, not cause they're good in bed? Now, MC can think those things that you said, but that shouldn't be the end. FMC was the only one to give him proper critique. He should really do some introspection on himself to see whether what FMC said was true or not. It's up to him to come to a realization.

Also, let's not pretend that MC looks (squinting eyes) was not a sign of something "nefarious." That alone should have raised a flag for readers on mc current state.

I think you and other readers need to remove the hat of assumptions that FMC sees the guys she sleeps with as "boy toys" or have you all forgotten that the term fuck buddies or sex friends exist for this very reason. When has FMC ever exhibit that she sees the guys she sleeps with as "toys"? Based on everything shown she just likes to have sex, like most teenagers like to do. And even then, there has already been hints that her family is probably a major reason she's even sleeping around.

It is mutually exclusive. You can show affection for someone without being competitive and vise versa. In the beginning or when they first had sex, mc wasn't thinking about how other dudes pleased FMC, he was solely thinking about giving her pleasure and how he felt having sex with her. Now, after the whole fiasco with pretty boy and junior, that's when he started showing his whole "these girls are mine" mentality. And throughout the whole of summer break that's what was growing in his mind and nobody notice or said anything about his whole change. He started thinking that he "needs" to do these things for the girls rather then actually finding what they actually like. To put it in perspective: let's say you have a GF who had a traumatic experience with sex but she still wants to have sex with you. One day you two were watching Netflix, one thing led to another and you two want to do it. She tells you she needs toys to get more in the mood. Now are you (a) going to get the toys or (b) say no cause you are in the mood now, so the toys aren't needed? This isn't a trick question and there's a right answer. So have at it.

It is because he got worse or, even to say, he's doing stuff he doesn't need to do. The older sis is just in it for the love of the game and, again, junior is both a recent virgin and really likes mc, so of course there's an extreme chance that she wouldn't tell MC. Sure, there might be some useful stuff but it seems there was more useless stuff.

Mc probably wasn't "good" in the beginning but that's based on a superficial level on what's "good." If the more experienced FMC was finding pleasure from mc, then he either was doing something right or FMC just likes having sex with him, subconsciously of course. But all that changed when not only was his motivation skewed towards a different direction or meaning, it doesn't help that the stuff he learned from playboy wasn't good and there wasn't any sort of critique from the only two people he's had sex with that are less likely to tell him anything of critique. Let's not assume that big sis cares if it "works well or not". She's the type to just have sex with almost anyone, no matter skill level or experience. So, I'm more inclined to believe that not only does big sis not care what techniques MC used from pretty boy, pretty boy isn't really good at sex as he thinks and there really isn't any reason for FMC to lie about pretty boy's skill when she's already gave praise to other guys she's slept with. And let's be honest, she is one of the few girls in the series that isn't charmed by pretty boy. Most of the girls who want to sleep with pretty boy are just charmed by his looks, so of course they won't say he sucks.

Did our robot pal just curse? Well deserved

But for real, what is there a game and/or tech that if you die in the game there's a good chance of getting brain damage? That's crazy.

Yo, I would like to hit the person who thought cliffhangers are good.

Okay , so future son in law made it seem that they weren't yet

What do you mean spilling over? They were already there?