which makes you more of a pedo?

Being attracted to a child with an adult brain
Or
An adult with a child brain
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better than the chef's fail reward

1st paragraph seems like a stalemate because although yes, it'll have more cost which is one of the negatives to the class, to operate those summons you'd need the knowledge that comes from courses later. However, will space rings, no summon times, thus equal cast time. Of course brute force works, but what does a magic combat student do when he drops to his knees to 2 exhaust curses? This was Katarology teacher's point. Curses are THE MOST EFFECTIVE as the only way to counter them is with divinity or sucking it up from what we've seen. If superiority was your goal then isn't everything else a waste when you can rock their senses with curses until they beg you to kill them?

2nd paragraph - he took them out of his space ring and were put together immediately. Katarology is the one study that actually heavily counters summonology. Shielder skellies can block spells if equipped and enchanted well, they can team up on magical combat, and hematology doesn't work either for blood targeting or they can defend against spells with enchants. Again, space rings were the equipment that made casting time solved, as every time a skelly has been brought forth, besides 1st time assembly, they were snapped together fast through law of attraction or just walked right out of his space ring.

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4th paragraph - when controlling a skelly, it runs off commands and intent, not spells. The summoning itself is what takes so long which is solved with space rings. Spells like bone spear act as fast as a regular spell, as it launches towards the target at the same speed as a fireball and has the same cast time. That was what manipulation was, controlling the bones rather than thinking a spell is input for every action. I can, however, concede that it's inefficient, but not pointless as its safer

Talking about the corpse spider was my point. Its skill level to use isn't high and boasts dangerous poison. It's just taught later in the curriculum. It feels like students are learning structure, then control for each skelly which takes too long to learn vs follow this diagram. Now you have a new spell congrats. They aren't impractical, there is just more to learn.

well well well... All these pedo's creeping but not 1 animal f***er hanging around huh?

Although I agree with the first ¾ of your comment, your last bit is a little... In line with the spirit

He probably "allowed" himself to be deceived because no one it the right mind would attack merchants

But ye I'm thinking it's more along the lines of consciously drawing in power to not let it be exposed, like how you exert power to give off bloodlust

he naturally uses it since the parasite. Because he doesn't amp it up, it's not displayed. You can his body glow in chpt 71 panel 20. This is the parasite's ability to draw out his latent power naturally. The lightning makes his swings faster and stronger depending on the amount he decides to draw out. I don't think he used it in the fight with necro-dude because it saps stamina and necro-dude split his soul in so many places.

best waste of 4 panels i have seen yet

lets be real here. Before he had to fight for his existence to remain. He might have even been a slave who had to dodge death at every corner for the soul reason of occupying boredom. Then had to thrive in level 9, a place where it's hard to start out.

Now he is a baby naga, in a dungeon where slavery is non-existent (closer to indentured servant), gets free days, isn't starved, isn't put in danger, and most importantly is cared for.

this is definitely a piss your pants laughing level of funny

how can gluttony resemble sloth so much

From my understanding, only powerful kings have concepts of floors. Being that are unable to traverse up, do to humans killing them, wouldn't know where 1 starts and would likely not even be able to even traverse their floor. Even the flood dragon who was there before the great war only had a rank 7 dungeon and was just starting wars leaving his dungeon

1st paragraph - Your counter claim just supports mine when I said that they learn attacking in later years thus at a disadvantage for battling in earlier years. Take a corpse spider for example. They took down a cyclops with one bite from their poison. Not only does summonology cost a lot (a portion of why it's looked down on), but also requires different existences for different applications which would be covered over many years.

2nd paragraph - The summoning process is what takes time which involves branding and assembly. Skellies can be assembled and branded before battle which directly counters your argument. The application of using a summon is in direct correlation of manipulated object to the target. refer to the chapter when he learned bone spear and bone armor from professor. Not all spells are used at a coordinate. Every Major has a Weakness. Magical combat Majors train like knights. They primarily train for close combat, making their weakness long ranged attacks. As instantaneous as a spell such as dark flare or poison arrow would signify that dark flare isn't a magic cast on the coordinate of the person but rather from the attacker. My physics are fine maybe you need more reading COMPREHENTION classes?

3rd paragraph - Wrong, the study of a subject with the intent of MASTERY is what makes it a MAJOR. The study of a subject with the intent of advanced knowledge is what makes it a MINOR. A neurosurgeon will have a major in brain surgery but would also require minors in human anatomy and physiognomy. Why use a puppet when you can do it yourself if you are applying the same things on skellies? The answer is simple. Using summons gives more variability during application without putting the caster in danger.

4th paragraph - 2nd paragraph punches holes through your 2nd paragraph, and 3rd paragraph only works under the assumption it takes longer to manipulate summons which isn't true. You can go back and see the bones moved as fast as dark flare, a spell, moved. It also assumes that while MAJORING summonology they don't MINOR other subjects. Using bone armor to attack also brings the question of if you have a problem with using bone gauntlets as a weapon why use a sword when you can just overpower with your fists?

My main point is that compared to other Majors, summonology would be the pinnacle of all courses as you need knowledge in other studies as support to master it. Take creating a being like the battalion commander for example. The battalion commander is the pinnacle of undead as it moves and thinks on its own but can be controlled through summonology.

The reason summoning magic was BETTER in warfare is solely because they can keep resurrecting bodies supplying an increase in personnel. That doesn't necessarily mean its application can't be used for interpersonal battles or 1v1. The problem is in competition format where the summoner has to reveal themselves it's obvious to ignore the summons and go after the caster. Real world application a summoner would hide themselves and you'd have to face an army of skeletons while trying to find them still in a 1v1 battle.

"Summoning is as instantaneous as curses" curses here was meant to be spells. Not all spells are direct which means that based on their position depends on how fast the spells hit. example a skeleton comes to hit you with a sword you block the sword for its ribs to blast apart and pierce your body. This would be as instantaneous as a spell such as dark flare.

So far what we have seen with magic combat is a bunch of kids just barely learning how to apply what they have learned. This goes back to points they have learned offensive application. You say it's pointless to trap a melee fighter because they are stronger. If you remember right the Katarology teacher was teaching support curses to aid their main subject. This means it's common to use more than your major. If a magic combat major can use enhancement to get stronger to smash the bones to pieces, why can't a summoner use reinforcement to make the durability of the bones harder. This objectively makes your theory of bones being easy to blast apart null. Enhancement on yourself is a beginner spell whereas enhancements on third parties is an advanced application. This doesn't necessarily mean that it's harder to do, just taught later. Enhancement on a third party would be a critical spell for a summoner though

Bone armor can not only be used as a form of armor, like cuirass, but also as a form of offense, gauntlets. When applying the enhancement to hands with bones like brass knuckles, you get a harder hit than just bare hands. Bones from different species will have a different density so of course depending on species you apply the skeleton from will vary results.
Also if you kept blasting skellies away one by one while moving around, you set yourself up for a trap as all those pieces could be used for bone prison or bone spear. Then the bones just need to be enchanted to increase their strength to match yours. Steel was used to contain an ogre, why can't bone contain a person?

There were 4 people needed to complete the level, with a total of 4 statues. The MC noticed the head as they went by the first statue and upon seeing the incomplete statue in the center and seeing the challenge of not letting the statue be resurrected he immediately put it together that the head is what causes the resurrection, but couldn't figure out that the 4th statue at the beginning was also a target

Those who don't understand the how the humans drew out the war to a peace agreement need to understand human technology.

More than likely humans fought an "overflow".
During this time monster probably transported human slaves to work for them.
Dungeon babies were born as the humans pushed back the monsters into the caves with tanks and explosives and other tech
Humans rallied to get the survivors back while captives were farmed and stolen through the different levels
As humans fought to get the slaves back they ended up gaining power via dungeon babies.
As time continues kings more than likely lost their free work force (only get by leveling up) causing a loss to income which causes the upkeep to be too much for workforce losing soldiers.
Instead of humans pushing for annihilation with war for dungeon territory, it would be better to limit the enemies attacking than fighting an additional force

Thus humans never won but became a threat is my take

Let's put some thought into context.

1) MC lived on the 12th floor of this dungeon.
2) On the 12th floor there were Hell spiders.
3) If we consider the spiders that the lvl 3 dungeon babies were killing with ease to be a "low level summon" and the Queen to be an "Advanced level summon" his low level Nagas took them out fairly easily.

why would he think his level 5 dungeon that could contend with low level hell spiders be a 2nd floor dungeon?

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