Chapter 0: Prologue - Verndio - Surreal Sword Saga

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typeou
999+ points1 year ago
"you have this very tangible and accessible way to go back to being human so why don't you KYS" what???
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- INPHINITHYtypeou
  377 points1 year ago
  Facts my man, now they were used in war and killed plenty of other humans now imagine what will happen when a huge number of them return to humans their mentality wont be fixed its damaged they cant become humans again in.the long run they will destroy the society they want to return to. I would fight if i was the chimera but I agree with the Mc
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  - typeouINPHINITHY
    999+ points1 year ago
    They were used. At no point did they have any control over their action. They're not guilty, and they did nothing wrong. The fact that they even want to go back to being human is exactly why they should be allowed to.
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    - Kang Han Sootypeou
      999+ points1 year ago
      I don't think so tbh, like he said even tho they were used they still had a chance to simply just kill themselves and keep their humanity
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      - typeouKang Han Soo
        999+ points1 year ago
        They didn't. Controlled chimeras explicitly have no control over themselves, they can only be ordered.
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        Kang Han Sootypeou
        999+ points1 year ago
        They went through it did they not , even if they were controlled that doesn't get rid of the fact that they killed inocents
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        typeouKang Han Soo
        999+ points1 year ago
        It does. Non-Compos mentis is a universally agreed rule of society. You are not responsible for acts committed while not in control of your body or sound mind. This is why Yuji and other possessed characters in fiction aren't murderers.
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        Midknighttypeou
        999+ points25 days ago
        Accurate, but everyone is assuming that the ancient dragon’s legacy actually can do what they want and isn’t just a monomaniacal fixation they’ve settled on as a desperate last hope… one that they’re willing to massacre the dwarves to get to, no less.
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        typeouMidknight
        999+ points25 days ago
        Sure but MC isn't challenging them on that. He's challenging them on like... not wanting to die?
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        INPHINITHYtypeouIt does. Non-Compos mentis is a universally agreed rule of society. You are not responsible for acts...
        377 points12 months ago
        Would you let someone who was controlled and killed your wife or husband be near your child cus he wasnt in control 🤔
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        typeouINPHINITHY
        999+ points12 months ago
        Nobody killed his wife or husband. Your point is moot.
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        INPHINITHYtypeou
        377 points11 months ago
        😑😑 proximity to a crime doesn't chamge the fact that it happened it wasnt on him but it happened to some one and theirs was on the extreme and uncontrolled side
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        typeouINPHINITHY
        999+ points11 months ago
        Your argument was emotional. It does matter whether it was his wife or not.
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        Bearly AlivetypeouIt does. Non-Compos mentis is a universally agreed rule of society. You are not responsible for acts...
        123 points1 year ago
        Are we all just going to forget that they are about to commit genocide?
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        typeouBearly Alive
        999+ points1 year ago
        Because the dwarves are trying to stop them. As far as we know they're consistently trying to avoid battles
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        User-5530665188typeou
        834 points1 month ago
        Like how they swarmed MC? How many did he kill before he came across one that talked?
        Most of them aren't trying to avoid battles, they aren't even thinking.
        I would say both of you are wrong.
        MC doesn't know what exactly that legacy does (should have listened to the dwarves when they were going to explain, but he's been degenerating lately) it COULD cure minds as well as bodies or even reverse causality making it as if nothing ever happened to them. Or it could just give them human appearance and change nothing else.
        There's no way to tell, thus there's no way to judge.
        What we DO know though is that none of this is real and if he doesn't guard the legacy for 10 days he can't proceed. Which, as far as we know, would negatively affect actual living humans somewhere down the line.
        Dude has 3 options at this point.
        1 Man up and just win as originally planed.
        2 Try to get them the peace talks with dwarves. Not very likely to work but who knows.
        3 Backstab the dwarves in a way that ensures that the legacy gets taken shortly after 10 days.
        But none of that actually matters. Once he's out of the stage there will be no dwarves, no chimeras and no legacy.
        The only thing that does matter is him moving on to the next stage.
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  User-5530665188typeou"you have this very tangible and accessible way to go back to being human so why don't you KYS" what...
  834 points1 month ago
  The question was why didn't they, not why don't they. And note how they are not denying that they could have, instead they are justifying why they chose not to, meaning that they DID have at least that much self-control left in them, but chose to save themselves over their victims. Now they are gonna bitch when MC doesn't chose them over his own circumstances and stakes (which are his life and lives and real world humans he's angling to save back home).
  Live by the sword die by the sword.
  Least they could do is have the integrity to acknowledge the gravity of their own actions, but they can't even admit to that much, playing the victims after victimising others.
  For someone talking about reclaiming humanity that's NOT a promising state to be in. Thus MC is technically right, they HAVE already given up their humanity. Now they are just chasing appearances.
  
  Imagine if "cursed letters" were real. You know the crap that some kids play, the "send the same letter to 10 people who haven't yet received one or you will die" ones.
  The moment you choose to send something like that you're no better than the one who sent it to you.
  And that's what they did and what MC is accusing them of - they put their own hide above multiple others.
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  Mangaguytypeou"you have this very tangible and accessible way to go back to being human so why don't you KYS" what...
  999+ points1 year ago
  Yeah the mc has been full of shit for a while now. His personality has been fairly unlikable from even before the stupid mind control drink and the way the story jumps time makes it even worse. Im dipping from this one good luck travelers.
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Hannibal
896 points1 year ago
Yeah no. He is in the wrong with his definition of "humanity". He just doesn't care to acknowledge that he is going to kill humans and victims at that.
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  User-9879422217Hannibal
  340 points12 months ago
  Sparing them and letting ALL that sweet XP go to waste?
  
  Hell no.
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- Narrator CliftonHannibalYeah no. He is in the wrong with his definition of "humanity". He just doesn't care to acknowledge t...
  999+ points1 year ago
  I'm pretty sure those half living corpses have destroyed plenty of places and even killed a bunch of people too. I would rather kill myself even being a victim than create more victims and end the endless suffering.
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  - typeouNarrator Clifton
    999+ points1 year ago
    They did. And they had no control over their actions. No they do and won't need to.
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      User-5530665188typeou
      834 points1 month ago
      So he should just fail the mission over and over and get permanently stuck in tutorial with no way to keep feeding himself (where would he farm point if not on chimeras?) because this time around target NPCs have a sob story.
      Your argument is emotional.
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Some Scrub
895 points3 hours ago
I'm confused about the failed level mechanics at this point,
It seems to be a device to push the plot forward that MC doesn't ever consider failing on purpose and returning to the waiting room, in order to clear a level more perfectly, or find a hidden piece.

But that's opposed to the charecter settings from early chapters of MC willing to suffer to increase his stats/lvl, etc.

A level with millions of mobs to farm XP he could re-do several times and try several ways to clear it, including XP farming or taking the pendant and healing everyone to stop the invasion dead before it begins
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User-4271251979
65 points1 month ago
Going By Mc's logic here, he should have killed himself after the mess he made on the floor with that damn drink. His actions are even worse since he realized the effect the drink was having on him but chose to stay because it was feeling good. When he had the occasion to end it by taking out the bad guy, he hesitated because it would mean leaving that place after completing the mission... so yeah if he really believes what he told the chimera guy, why is he still f*cking alive and still enjoying the massacre of other beings????
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lastarc
999+ points6 months ago
nah bro i feel bad for them wtf you saying hojae?…

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God of Boredom
999+ points1 year ago
They’re probably getting manipulated by the dark mages,Like why do they think that they can return to being human?
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User-8827958856
5 points1 year ago
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Banana
999+ points1 year ago
Imagine mc take the dragon legacy
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Spain without a
999+ points1 year ago
Is she gonna use it to become human?
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- SolcasticSpain without a
  999+ points1 year ago
  Nah, if Itty uses it to became like human then she would be just another side fmc
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- Degenerate_CrusaderSpain without aIs she gonna use it to become human?
  999+ points1 year ago
  No she'd never do that will get rid of her sexiness
  
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Hentai Protag-downvote me
-999 points1 year ago
Well yeah that's sad, alexa play young girl A edit
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  MongHentai Protag-downvote me
  84 points1 year ago
  U want more dislike?
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  - Hentai Protag-downvote meMong
    -999 points1 year ago
    If you want to give me some, i appreciate it
    And you did, thanks man
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