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    saintofducks
    1 year ago
    Dude so good at gaslighting even i believe he's telling the truth
    • V
      Tsuruoka is totally lying here. Kyoya is in his twenties, and he's perfectly well-adjusted. That must be why he dismissed Nanao in the last chapter, because Kyoya can disprove his lies.
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        BatmanVBA
        1 year ago
        But it could also happen in a person's 20-40.
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          VBABatman
          1 year ago
          Tsuruoka also said the Talented gradually lose their sense of morality and turn into cruel killers, which Kyoya has been anything but. He doesn't provide any evidence that backs up this Enemy Of Humanity being originally a Talented human either. It's all just words that sound suspiciously similar to Nanao's freshest trauma.
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            GhetoknightVBA
            1 year ago
            I believe he's lying but realistically their first thought would be to utilize the children as armed combatants, like nana, so I don't think it's entirely unbased

            I also think kyouya is a special case, being that his memory loss could help resist the morality loss, or his immortality allowing him to keep his physical form, and having super healing as an ability it makes sense why her number would be so high now
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              VBAGhetoknight
              1 year ago
              In the history of Talentless Nana, the government did form a law-enforcing organization comprised of Talented individuals, but they eventually revolted, which explains why the students are being killed instead of getting proper training. Could the revolution have been caused by the Talented losing their morality? Perhaps. But then why was this information kept from Nana while she was still on the side of the government? There's no way this was a recent discovery, considering the Talented have been around for over a hundred years already.

              This is my answer — Tsuruoka only came up with this lie to get Nanao on his side so he could get his hands on the Talent to nullify other Talents. Whatever that monster in containment was, it doesn't represent the Talented as a whole. It is just a rare worst case scenario. However, even without transforming into bloodthirsty monsters, the Talented have far more power than the Talentless; hence the government's plan to systematically eradicate them. As for Tsuruoka's own motives, I believe he is looking to gain control, and Nanao can grant him that over the Talented especially.

              And if the author knows what's good for them, they will confirm Tsuruoka is lying.
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                GhetoknightVBA
                1 year ago
                Nice breakdown,

                "If the author knows whats good for them" lmao
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                GhetoknightGhetoknightI believe he's lying but realistically their first thought would be to utilize the children as armed...
                1 year ago
                regardless narratively the guy is lying but plot-wise it kinda slightly fits
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          Just a MudaMan with RoadRoller
          1 year ago
          If what this dude is saying is true then even I would join his side
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            TheAlmond
            1 year ago
            holy a twist at this stage? this is too good.
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              Godsuba
              1 year ago
              Bro has perfected his gaslighting techniques
              • D
                Tsuruoka is too good. He's got me questioning everything 😩😩😩
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                  William Sean Lee
                  1 year ago
                  The enemy of humanity huh? I wonder if what Tsuruoka showed really was a "real" thing instead of fake
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                    Black Hole
                    1 year ago
                    did i already catch up..
                    • V
                      Honestly, I expected the infiltration plan would take more chapters, and I was prepared for the suspense it'd bring.
                      • N
                        don't fucking kid your selfs, when i first read this i cringed, because when did this fucker care about morality?
                        also if children really did turn into that, the government would capitalize on it like crazy, and turn them into weapons, these monsters would be like titans from aot, you could just drop them on enemy nations or a battle field to use as a army substitute .
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                            So the monsters actually exist, feel like he's just lying
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