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  • good job you made a time loop. without the summoning spell Takumi wouldn't have been dragged here, but if Takumi wasnt dragged here they wouldn't have used the summoning spell. good ol catch 22.
    • PhantasmaMiscellaneous Bastard
      999+ points3 months ago
      isn't this grandpa paradox or something?
      • HateMiscellaneous Bastardgood job you made a time loop. without the summoning spell Takumi wouldn't have been dragged here, ...
        77 points4 months ago
        nope, if you read the first chapter, they were already being summoned 4 people to be exact, Takumi was supposed to be 1 of the 4 that got summoned but the Goddess interfered with the summoning
        which summons Takumi to her side instead, her goal is for Takumi to guide and make little changes to the world, she put Takumi in an earlier time so that he could get started much earlier than the other summon people
        • yes, but now we're learning that they're summoning people because of Takuimis actions. meaning if Takumi wasn't there they wouldn't have summoned him and the others in the first place. its a causal loop, sorta like becoming your own grandfather.
          • HateMiscellaneous Bastard
            77 points4 months ago
            ??? THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SUMMONED ANYWAYS [IT'S A CANON EVENT] EVEN IF TAKUMI WASN'T THERE FIRST THEY WERE ALREADY BEING SUMMONED it just looked that way because the Goddess sent Takumi first
            • yes, they were summoned because Takumi interfered, but Takumi only interfered because they were summoned. go look up what a casual loop is. time travel is weird and this is one of the simpler paradoxes that can come from it.
              • HateMiscellaneous Bastard
                77 points4 months ago
                it's causal loop
                • hey at least you know how to spell it. now go look up what it is
                  • HateMiscellaneous Bastard
                    77 points4 months ago
                    i already did and

                    • if reading is too hard to understand, Futurama season 3 episode 19 covers it pretty well.
                      • HateMiscellaneous Bastard
                        77 points4 months ago
                        and i understood it but my friend, godzilla had a stroke
                        • HateMiscellaneous Bastardif reading is too hard to understand, Futurama season 3 episode 19 covers it pretty well.
                          77 points4 months ago
                          this is my answer

      • so whats happening? are they really gonna summon people to hunt MC down? whats gonna be the excuse for that to happen? calling him a demon or something despite all the evidence that says hes just a dude? are they gonna call him a heretic just because of a toilet? i really want to see if how they'll pull that off.
        • 999+ points4 months ago
          Church doesn't want their monopoly on light magic and all its monetarily chargeable uses taken away from them, so they do what every greedy-capitalistic organization with a market monopoly does: getting rid of competition with all means available. Considering the whole "light magic is gods power, so only ppl authorized by the church can use it and anyone who does it without our permission is a demon, sinner, heretic, etc that goes against God and humanity" that they propagate, I'm actually surprised that they haven't yet just declared the whole country that MC resides in as heretics for hiding MC...
          • HateMinako792
            77 points4 months ago
            there's probably some politics which stops that from happening
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          This is all because the mc made toilets right?
        • Titan-chan is kawaii

          • I just skip the pages about the church or the "heroes" lol.
            it's a fucking waste of time, did the same in RTW and various other novels lol.
            • SO He is the cause and he is the effect , all because of Gods plan
              Nice....
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